“hold off, So is this a night out together?” Podcast Episode 209: Bottoming with Chingy | Autostraddle
Why don’t we make some sound for all the soles in the home! (It really is me personally, the underside in the home.) Bottom society has started to become very anything⢠using the internet as of late! But what does it really suggest to be a bottom? Precisely why provides the society chose bottoming is just getting afraid to ask for what you prefer? And exactly how does a person go-about determining should they fancy bottoming?!
With these questions rattling around our very own thoughts, demanding solutions, Drew and that I realized there was just one person we can easily head to for a curved, enthusiastic conversation about bottoming: The Gay Chingy AKA Chingy Nea, AKA The Bottom Supreme. Chingy is one of the most useful men and women I’m sure creating and tweeting these days, and as a bottom my self, I am recognized to call the woman my leader. Chingy allows us to tease away exactly what it way to be a bottom, precisely why she hates “smol bean” bottom society, the human body as gap, and your human body as
total
. Its a very breathtaking talk, if I would say so myself personally! Please realize that i know that we state “gorgeous” approximately three thousand occasions this event, I am also seeking help for my problem. (the disorder is talking like 57 year-old white homosexual guy.)
And! This week’s game entails me personally speculating if complex plots Drew defines are part of a motion picture or an aspiration she had circa 2006. It is not easy!
SHOW NOTES
+ Study Chingy’s
Bottom Manifesto
, follow the woman
on Twitter
and
IG
!
+listed here is a listing of all flicks that Drew included in her game:
-
The Seventh Seal
(1937) -
Bringing Up Child
(1938) -
Pierrot le Fou
(1965) -
Ebony Swan
(2010)
+Watch Anna Faris do the greatest work of the woman job in
Smiley Face!
+Let
Shohreh Aghdashloo talk you to sleep while outfitted as Chrisjen
Avasarala
from
The Expanse
since you are entitled to that.
+Cindy Wilson on the B52s is quite hot and honestly? “Love Shack” still whips!
+
Robert Mitchum
, stone cold fox.
EPISODE
Chingy
: i have simply been bottoming since I have was actually, I don’t know, as far back as i will keep in mind.
Drew
: Cue Rags to Riches from
Goodfellas.
Chingy
: dating back to I’m able to bear in mind, i usually planned to be a bottom, no, but method of
[intro plays]
Drew
: Hi, I Am Drew.
Christina
: I’m Christina.
Drew
: This is
Hold off, Is This a Date
?
Christina
:
Wait, Is It a romantic date?
is actually an Autostraddle podcast dedicated to the one, the actual only real the most significant concern of our instances: hold off, Is This a romantic date?
Drew
: And, wow, I really merely froze upwards indeed there.
Christina
: I found myself like, oh shit, I was designed to say one thing! [laughs]
Drew
: I’m really rapid to your banter, my personal mind only⦠The reality is that I was checking out over my personal online game notes, which we aren’t at yet because we still have to introduce our selves. Thus, i’ll try to stay dedicated to one job each time.
Christina
: Focus upwards!
Drew
: i’m called Drew Gregory, I am an author for Autostraddle, and a filmmaker, and a trans girl.
Christina
: Hi, my name is Christina Tucker, forgot my personal last title for a hot minute, no big deal. I am additionally a writer at Autostraddle and other places on the web, a podcaster, a gay black girl. That’s sorts of it, dog, that’s me.
Drew
: I like it. Okay, now we-
Christina
: Now the game.
Drew
: are we able to play the video game?
Christina
: are we able to get right to the video game? I am able to tell you’re thrilled, I will let you know’re simply shaking.
Drew
: So, i have been keeping a dream record since 2007, while the premise with this game is actually-
Christina
: I did not know this about yourself!
Drew
: Yes, it isn’t as up-to-date now, we accustomed record all my aspirations and now its only once some thing really sticks. But, the idea within this online game is, am I describing the storyline of a dream I experienced while I was actually a teenager, or are I describing the plot of a movie that we appreciated once I ended up being a teenager?
Christina
: Oh kid, okay.
Drew
: very, just how it will get is I’ll constantly describe it a dream as well as in initial individual. Therefore, if this ended up being
Star Wars,
I would end up like, i am in room and I’m combating as part of a rebellion, there’s a wicked guy who’s using a black colored robot fit also it looks like he’s my father. That’s how I’ll describe it, the way we explain hopes and dreams, but often it is an aspiration, often it’ll be from a film. Ready?
Christina
: I’m some thing, I don’t know that I’m ready, but why don’t we stone. Why don’t we see just what i will perform right here.
Drew
: Okay, I’m on a beach and that I see this odd guy dressed in black. He informs me which he’s dying and we also can enjoy a casino game to determine easily live or if perhaps the guy takes me personally. We have the ability to escape, but almost everywhere I go, everyone is ill and I feel just like Death remains soon after me.The just delighted component happens when I fulfill a theater troupe and they are an enjoyable experience.
Christina
: This,i believe, is actually an aspiration.
Drew
: this could be Ingmar Bergman’s
The Seventh Seal
from 1957.
Christina
: this might be likely to be a real gotcha on CT’s traditional movie understanding, because everything I realize that Drew, within adolescence, had not been doing was actually watching films that i will acknowledge. At this time, I’m form of wanting that I’ve seen do not require. I believe that is to be more enjoyable for me personally.
Drew
: The second one, i am ending up in my family and some Italian US gangsters. One of several gangsters demands that we give more than some cash, but my family and I were able to avoid. We try to escape through all this work cold terrain, traveling I meet an actress and relate to the lady. We end up in a suburb. I believe we will begin a unique existence with each other until she takes us to a huge mansion, and that I understand it is one of the gangster. It absolutely was all a trap, the gangster comes so there’s a confrontation. I eliminate him, the dream comes to an end with all the celebrity performing a musical quantity.
Christina
: Is it a film?
Drew
: this could be an aspiration I had in 2008.
Christina
: Okay, wow. Boy, yeah, I guess i must keep in mind that its 2000, it’s old school received mind. That’s what i need to keep in mind.
Drew
: Also want, exactly what films ended up being I seeing at the time and just how much did that effect my personal desires?
Christina
: Well, yeah, obviously a lot!
Drew
: A fun truth is that I became really, I didn’t include this simply because I thought this might have out, although gangster was Tony Soprano because I became viewing
The Sopranos
in 2008. Very, which is an enjoyable little fact. Okay, next one, i’ve an essential project, but this hot woman turns up and begins sidetracking me personally. I do want to be together with her, but I also should get my work completed, therefore I tell this lady to exit. She keeps following me. Out of the blue, a leopard appears inside my room and I also need certainly to spend remainder of the dream wanting to catch the leopard. I’m still truly nervous, I never finish my work, but about your ex is hot.
Christina
: it has to be a dream you have, this has to get a Drew dream.
Drew
: This is Howard Hawks’
Discussing Baby
from 1938.
Christina
: No, but that is an aspiration you have, that’s the the majority of Drew fantasy I’ve have you ever heard. Today at this time, i am simply will be spinning movie history, to accommodate my personal whims.
Drew
: Great, i really like that. Okay, I’m at an event and I also you should not really like anybody there. Ultimately, we see this girl, we used to have a crush on so we choose to keep with each other. We choose the woman household, however they are chased off from this gang of guys who happen to be trying to kill the lady. We end on a beach and it also seems like we are going to end up being okay until the males discover all of us. She ends up getting into this some other man, and so I simply take cartoonish dynamite and determine to strike me up
Christina
: Film.
Drew
: that is! It is Jean Luc Goddard’s
Pierrot ce Fou
, from 1965.
Christina
: have-not viewed, but that feels like a ding dang motion picture if you ask me.
Drew
: Great, I favor it. There is a narration describing a strange motorboat like design that is impossible to destroy. I want on a retreat near the framework, the retreat is sort of theater associated, kind of spiritual. You will find a crush on this subject lady at escape, but she’s got a boyfriend. Amid the activities and traditions, there’s a lot of drama between myself and this woman and her date, it concludes beside me alone. There have been a sequence exposing your boat framework is impossible to damage because a mechanical supply fixes it in the evening.
Christina
: that might be anything in many means, i’ll state flick once more, have you thought to?
Drew
: it really is a dream from 2011, that did have narration from another person, you are sure that, it occurs!
Christina
: This is really good promo to own an aspiration journal, because I feel enjoy it might be fun easily could recall my dreams in this way.
Drew
: No person likes as soon as you explain the hopes and dreams in their eyes. I actually do though, and I also’m your own pal, so if you need write down your aspirations and tell me, i’d like to learn about all of them.
Christina
: Okay, which is very nice to learn.
Drew
: I have two a lot more.
Christina
: Okay.
Drew
: i am in an attractive yard with several pals, everyone appear to be awakening from becoming drugged. We are forced to bathe in an acid that drains pigment therefore we turn out to be gothic and blue-eyed. The individuals responsible begin teaching all of us to destroy, as it happens this place is run by a crazy dictator, I reject obtaining totally brainwashed. There’s this girl truth be told there i’ve a crush on and I persuade the lady to leave with me, while escaping I have recorded and slain, nevertheless lady will get away. Whenever she makes the jail, she understands we are in the exact middle of a forest so there’s nowhere commit.
Christina
: Movie.
Drew
: that will be 1st fantasy in my own dream diary from, I mentioned, “2007.” It’s actually 2006.
Christina
: Wow.
Drew
: i usually thought it was interesting that we pass away for the fantasy, however the other individual continues on. But now, there is some unusual sex material going on here, and that I’m browsing have to contemplate this one for a time.
Christina
: positively accomplish that.
Drew
: Okay, We have yet another.
Christina
: Okay.
Drew
: I’ve been because of the possibility to be a ballerina, my personal mom claims i will not have the ability to get it done. There is this additional woman from inside the tv show which I think is hot, but i am troubled she is going to change myself. I am battling in rehearsal, but end upwards making together with the girl, we connect. It is hot, but personally i think myself personally losing control, we get back to the party tv show. My own body seems to be morphing into another thing, I’m concerned that i will screw up.
Christina
: that is a film.
Drew
: Therefore,
Ebony Swan
.
Christina
: Yes, that is
Black Swan
, certainly.
Drew
: maybe you have seen
Dark Swan
? Which was one I imagined you observed.
Christina
: I have come across
Ebony Swan
, I⦠Fun fact, I continued a night out together with a guy observe
Dark Swan
.
Drew
: Wow.
Christina
: only straight situations I did.
Drew
: that was that like?
Christina
: Weird, it absolutely was unusual.
Drew
: Do you such as the flick? Did the guy just like the flick?
Christina
: i believe, I’d already observed it, i believe I became similar, “let us get find it once again.” I do believe, I happened to be extremely pro
Dark Swan,
and also for right heterosexual factors, undoubtedly.
Drew
: Sure, okay.
Christina
: And, he had been like, “That was odd.” And that I was actually like, “Oh well, we aren’t planning continue to big date.”
Drew
: Wow, really If only him the best, i really hope he’s someplace successful. Thank you so much for playing this video game with me.
Christina
: Wow, I’m therefore glad we went two for however lots of we performed thereon.
Drew
: maybe not awful.
Christina
: perhaps not bad.
Drew
: You did better than Elise did while I desired to find out if it was a functional video game which could operate, and she ended up being my guinea pig. Therefore, she merely had gotten one right.
Christina
: reasonable enough.
Drew
: Should we proceed to the major topic for the few days?
Christina
: let us get into it, let’s fully grasp this special guest in.
Drew
: Well, I would like to very first declare that our major subject on the week is actually bottoming, so we could have only one extremely special guest.
Christina
: its only 1 individual.
Drew
: is it possible to please present yourself?
Chingy
: Hi, i am Chingy Nea, also referred to as The Gay Chingy. I’m a Writer, Filmmaker, and gasian leather dyke muppet. I will be in addition The usa’s top base.
Christina
: Yes, I think whenever we were discussing topics and then we’re like, “we can easily mention bottoming and there’s virtually only 1 individual we’re able to have on the pod to take action, absolutely only one individual who is very literally the Supreme.”
Chingy
: Thanks a lot for identifying, it feels good having your wonder respected, thank you
Christina
: Yes, and you’ve done great work, and here we’re acknowledging it.
Drew
: I want to know when you feel just like you turned into America’s greatest bottom. Whenever ended up being that a word and a label and an identity you really held onto?
Chingy
: Well, and so I frequently merely state, “I’m The Bottom Supreme.” Because, which cares about The usa?
Drew
: Positive.
Christina
: Fair adequate.
Chingy
: Yeah, I think that I always really was effective in bottoming, then again in 2017 or something like that, we visited a play party that was simply for fem leading sadists conquering myself up for six to seven hrs directly, plus it was only me personally, and I also ended up being like, “Oh, i am top that is ever before been.” Immediately after which, In my opinion following that, i simply kept escalating and being, wow, i am very fun to look at. Wow, i am thus entertaining as a bottom, this is certainly wow, everyone whom gets to peak me personally is really so fortunate. And, it just went from there, In my opinion, immediately after which we blogged articles also known as I’m A Much Better Bottom Than You. Listed Here Is Precisely Why. It was type a manifesto, it had been a bottom manifesto.
Christina
: certainly, can verify.
Chingy
: And, people have actually informed me, “It is altered how they look at intercourse.” And, i prefer that many. It’s the one article to my site that I’ve written there. I have created at
Vice
,
Teen Fashion
,
Vulture
â
Autostraddle
ended up being the first spot we penned, in fact. But yeah, that’s the one blog on my internet site, if you want to take a look.
Christina
: i really like a stronger brand name, I love once you understand a brand name, and I also genuinely believe that’s actually attractive, just, brand management of yours bottomy your self. I believe, that is truly beautiful to see.
Chingy
: thank-you, i acquired my personal first writing opportunity at
Autostraddle
because I found myself writing about being a base, being poly, and being truly deep into being a fabric dyke. And since then, I’ve started to share a lot of other things, but becoming bottom part great only style of may be the one through line of all of it.
Christina
: Yes.
Drew
: In addition feel just like you’re an extremely active base and in how which you reveal, and discuss, and I also think knowledge bottoming you are very effective. While, I think there are plenty of the queer society, possibly, especially the lesbian community, that possibly thinks of bottoming as⦠I’m not sure-
Chingy:
Passivity
.
Christina
: Mm-hmm
(Affirmative)
.
Drew
: Yeah.
Chingy
: Yeah, we often point out that there’s way less soles than men and women believe are soles. I do believe absolutely a change between getting a bottom and simply not knowing or requesting what you need. I do believe those are a couple of completely different things that people conflate.
Christina
: I would personally need agree, I additionally believe the way you speak about bottoming is, after all, let’s just say it, much less annoying than the way more and more people discuss becoming a bottom or determine with bottom culture. Because, i actually do think just what a lot of people say explicitly or non clearly is simply, Im idle and don’t care doing any sort of action, activity, et-cetera, I would like things completed to me. And, basically need certainly to seek that call at any way, that hurts my feelings. And, you might be great and therefore powerful at becoming, they are items that i’d like, bring them to me personally and that I will rock and roll the globe. Definitely gorgeous for me.
Chingy
: thanks, What i’m saying is, that is what you should do becoming proficient at merely something, you have to put yourself on the market and check out and come up with mistakes and obtain hurt somewhat, and, I don’t know, study on it.
Christina
: In my opinion that’s a beneficial message, frankly.
Chingy
: I’ve simply already been bottoming since I have ended up being, I am not sure, as far back as i could recall. [laughs]
Drew
: Cue “Rags to Riches” from
Goodfellas
.
Chingy
: Yeah, dating back to I’m able to recall, i usually desired to be a bottom. No, but form of, once I had been 13 or 14, I became already examining gay bdsm website and lesbian SADOMASOCHISM web pages. Thus, I wasn’t under any delusions as to what I became pertaining to, I found myself having girls I dated in high-school choke me personally on, I knew everything I wished. And so, that amount of awareness has just offered me personally quite a few years to know what Needs and figure out how to get it.
Christina
: Beautiful, Drew, give me personally how you feel on bottoming.
Drew
: Well, i am actually truly excited to talk about this because I feel like in 2019 {when I|as I|while